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[no subject]16 Years AgoHello Everyone, As a new member here I would like to wish everyone the best of luck in your publishing dream. I've been writing for over forty years, and except for a few small literary magazines over the years, haven't yet managed to crack the big boys, and I doubt that I ever will. But first of all I should explain that I live in Australia, and that is a much smaller market place than you have in the States. You have 300 million people - we have 20 million. That restricts us for a start. There are very few large publishers that operate in this country, and those that do are extremely conservative in what they're prepared to publish. They're always on the lookout for names, people in the news, it doesn't seem to matter what field they become famous in. Once that name is in the papers, then you become publishable. Here, sporting personalities are used to publish all sorts of things that are totally outside their fields, such as cricketers publishing recipe books. I find it soul destroying to watch people who have no real interest in writing being taken up just because their name is recognisable. So on to other forms of publishing. I have written eight novels, and self-published them all. I used to send them away, then sit back and wait for, usually, six months, before receiving any word about them at all. Then it was usually a curt rejection slip with no indication why the book was rejected, and no advice about what they would consider to be publishable. In some cases I noticed that the manuscripts had not even been opened. They had sat in their 'slush' pile for six months, and then been returned just on the basis of reducing the size of the slush pile. The same problem with agents. When I did find an agent who was interested, they had no luck placing my work, and finally passed it on to a vanity publisher (in England) who expected me to fork out 10,000 pounds for them to handle it, with no guarantees, no action for at least a year, no print run, no definite shop placement, and all subsidiary rights to accrue to them just in case they happened upon a winner. There are so many scams out there that you're better off handling it on your own. I note that a few members here have published with publishamerica. I did consider that course until I Googled them, and came upon a number of reviews that cited them for scamming, not paying royalties, not placing books in shops, holding the copyrights for seven years etc. Anyone considering that course should read the contract very carefully indeed. I have published my books with Lulu, and the only problem with them is that there is nothing to specifically direct people to your 'shopfront'. I think that people either stumble across it by mistake, or are directed there by you. One way to do this is to add the URL at the bottom of your hotmail or yahoo mail accounts that are sent with every email you send. Lulu is certainly scrupulous with the money side of things, and pay directly into your paypal account once a month, whenever there have been any sales. But sales are few and far between. I have published my books here in Australia via a POD printer, and the quality is first rate. Unfortunately, for a 250 page novel you're looking at a cost per book of about $14 (Australian), which leaves insufficient mark-up for traditional bookshops and Newsagencies unless you can get people to pay about $25 for them. So I just sell them privately for $18-$20, and that's difficult enough in itself. There's certainly no money in it. I have published over a dozen books of poetry in small run editions, printed offset, (I was a printer during my working life), but the problem there is, once again, distribution. Unless you're prepared to drive all around the country placing your books on a returnable basis - at which time you're already into the red for travel costs - then you won't be able to get them out to the public. You can always advertise, but that's an expensive business as well, so unless you're going to sell thousands, you're going to be out of pocket. I note that one member here cites Poetry.com and a $10,000 prize. That was one of the biggest scams going, the company went broke and was sold to Lulu. They are running it on slightly different lines, but I don't think there's much happening there, either. So, I hate to be a party-pooper, but all you folks out there have got your work cut out for you to print and market your books. Even if you market them yourself in small numbers however, get them into the libraries, because that's the only way anyone will sit up and take notice. One word of advice. I note that in a lot of the comments here, there are numerous spelling mistakes and typo's. If you want to maintain credibility as a writer, you're going to have to spellcheck your work, especially your letters of enquiry to publishers and agents. If they see that in your everyday writing, they're going to expect the worst in your 'professional' writing. David Lewis Paget |
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[no subject]16 Years Ago Wow, awesome post. Thanks a lot! I have heard similar wariness about Publish America. I was Googling them today and there were definately some horror stories. Yikes! I have been checking into Lulu.com and have not heard anything too horrible put it seems with all the POD/self publish services you are truly your own best advocate. That's fine with me I suppose.
Feel free to join the website and Ning site. We are not huge but we all try to support fellow members as much as possible. Anything to get more eyes on your words, right? Good luck and check out Midnight's new contest!
- C. M. |
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[no subject]16 Years AgoI have never been Published. I live in a small town in Ohio, which means it's hard to become a success in this place. I wish to get published somehow that way I can help my family pay bills and such.
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[no subject]16 Years AgoI've never been published, but I want to be within the next two years. I love writing books. I do poems also, but books have always been the love of my life. I can spend 6 months on one story before it's completed then I move on to something else. I've been writing for 9 yeras now and I don't plan on stopping. |
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[no subject]16 Years AgoI love your post. It contains a lot of good info for those of us just starting out and I'll be sure to watch my spelling on here. |
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[no subject]16 Years AgoHi all! My name is 'Siva and i'm from Belgium. I'm awaiting my 4th publication with Masque Publishing February 10th. The first time i've been published was with poetry international. Second one was in TuT (the ugly tree) and after that my first publication with Masque. I chose the international magazines, which have no reward for publishing, or give a copy of the magazine for free. The main reason for this is because i'm Belgian. I don't write Belgian poems, I always write in English. That however is very inconvenient when living in Belgium :) I'm really glad that i'm being accepted in UK magazines, and hope of gaining some recognition this way. If I shouldn't, it's not a big deal, I'm proud enough of being Belgian and making it as far as a UK magazine. And I hope that my publication with Masque wasn't the last one :p |
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[no subject]16 Years AgoI would also like to say that the above anonymous post is actually me. For some reason, the post didn't register me as a logged in member. Sorry about that!!
~Katherine |
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[no subject]16 Years AgoFor me, publication started in 1957 when I was 16: an essay called "Presidential Timber" was published in the Sunday New York News. I was so happy I thought everything I would submit to magazines and newspapers would be accepted and published. What a joke! I didn't see my work in print, beyond my university literary journal poems and stories, until 1960 when a short poem of mine made it to Bardic Echoes.
I've been writing and getting my poems, stories, articles, and letters published since then. I've had work in The Writer, Cats Magazine, Chicken Soup for the Soul: Celebrating Brothers and Sisters, and soon-to-be-released A Cup of Comfort for Fathers, along with stories in Dragons Composed, Italian-American Writers on New Jersey, Time Intertwined and others, My poems have appeared in numerous anthologies such as Baby Boomer Birthright, A Time of Trial, Our Fathers Who Art in Heaven, Sweet Lemons and more. I've self-published ten books, one of them called A Family of Sicilians...available at Two of my books were published in India by Cyber-wit Publications, and two of my chapbooks were published, one by Pudding House Press and the other by The Camel Press. From 1974-1988, I was editor of New Worlds Unlimited, an annual poetry anthology that published aspiring and professional poets here and abroad. I am a retired middle-school English teacher and retired college prof who writes daily and continues to submit work for publication. Salvatore Buttaci |
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[no subject]16 Years AgoDavid,
I read your message with much interest. Getting poems and stories published is never easy. But I would suggest building up credits by submitting your poems to small magazines and journals, many of which are on the Internet. I suggest this because no book publisher will even consider a poet who has little to no prior publications. I would also suggest entering poetry contests. There are many that are free or nearly free. Join a poetry society in your country that sponsors contests. The idea is to get some credits under your writer's belt. Another suggestion, if you write essays: consider submitting to Chicken Soup for the Soul and A Cup of Comfort. These are two publications that are international. Getting a story in one of their publications will help you get the attention of publishers out there. And it doesn't matter where you live to submit material to them. As for self-publishing, I too have a book at lulu.com but have earned only about $200 in royalties for A Family of Sicilians...which I first self-published in 1998. Back then, working and able to afford it, I spent about five grand getting 1,000 copies printed. I gave a few away for promotional purposes and sold the rest. I earned nearly ten grand, but it was a lot of work. I wrote articles about my book for magazines and newspapers, I was a guest on several cable TV shows and on radio spots. All free promotion! If lulu.com did for me what I had done for me in 1998, I'd have earned a lot more in royalties! Salvatore Buttaci |
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[no subject]16 Years AgoI'm in the works of writing a whole series, and I've yet to be published. But then again, I'm much too young to be published (unless they've started publishing young teenagers). Although I have no experience whatsoever inside the professional writing world, it is my opinion that to be even a little successful (as in publishing for money) you need a great agent and an even better editor. You also may want to consider writing in a well known and liked genre. If you're publishing for your own enjoyment or satisfaction, I'm not sure... |
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[no subject]16 Years AgoHello everyone, and thanks for the invite! I am currently unpublished, but that is probably my own fault. To tell you the truth I'm afraid that my work just isn't good enough yet. As my bio says, I'm a recovering perfectionist and I'm terrified of sending something to the perfect agent or publisher and being rejected simply because I hadn't done enough editing. But I'm trying to work through my fear and at least get a few of my short stories published. Hopefully that will go well, I'll let you all know! Good luck to everyone! |
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[no subject]16 Years AgoHi there and thanks for the invite.
Every year I participate in National Novel Writing Month, where the goal is to write a 50K word novel in the space of 30 days give or take a couple of holidays. This is not an easy task and if you accomplish it, the Office of Letters & Light (NaNoWriMo's sponsors), give you an invite to have your book published by CreateSpace.com. Now I have heard nightmare stories about self publishing companies, but being this one is owned by Amazon.com I figured I would give it a try. The novel I completed in 2007 was called Psychic Lovers and it was well over 120K words. I began to edit it slowly and of course life happened, keeping me from finishing in time for the offer's deadline in June. November 2008 rolled around and I pumped out another novel, but left this one unfinished because there is so much I can do with these characters. I may re-visit it this coming November because I can see 50K words more, easy. I would like to invite any of you who need practice or just want to see if you can write a novel in 30 days. Here's the link: I moved and in March my desktop crashed with that 120K novel in it. Luckily I had it on more than one flash drive, but since I was still unpacking I had no idea where my flash drives were. Around the second week of May, I found the flash drives and realized that the deadline for CreateSpace was only two weeks away. I pulled it up on my recently rebuilt desktop and did a surface edit for the last quarter of the book. I popped it into CreateSpace, followed all the directions and by the first week of June it was online. At a recent departmental meeting, my boss asked if there was any news from the 40 plus members. We went around the table and I was next to last. I calmly folded my hands in front of me, turned to my boss and said, "Well, my very first romance novel will be available on Amazon.com in about two weeks." Well the place went wild with hoots, hollers and applause. My boss' face went from surprise to pride within seconds. I believe around 25 books were bought by my co-workers and the rest by friends, family and my online buddies! I'm hearing three word reviews like "I loved it!" and "It was great!" Haven't received a single bad review yet and that's a good thing! I didn't want to waste my time with traditional publishers book or electronic, not with my very first book. With my future endeavors I plan on using the fact that Psychic Lovers is selling and since many publishers don't deal with unpublished authors, I can say that I'm published and will carry in my beautiful purple book as proof. The people who have read my book are now hungry for more. Guess I'll have to get busy! Here's the link to my book on Amazon. If you Google my pen name -- Sydelle Houston -- the link for Target.com comes up as well. That was Amazon's doing. www.amazon.com/gp/product/1442176954 I plan on doing my own marketing, get it in the bookstores before Christmas. All this is hard to do when you still have a full time job, commute and on occasion, try to get out and enjoy life. But the feeling of having your words in a bound book is an uncanny feeling, and having people demanding you autograph their copies is one hell of an ego boost! So to all of those trying to get published, don't stop. Persist! Good luck all of you! |
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[no subject]16 Years AgoYes, I have a book. HYBRID ISBN 978-0-9820856-0-8 available from: www.deadbeatpress.com |
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[no subject]16 Years AgoI am an unpublished author, but as of right now I do not plan on being published due to lack of a good story.
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[no subject]16 Years AgoI am Madelyn and I have not been published but am in the process of finding a literary agent.
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[no subject]16 Years AgoHi Group! I've e-published my first fantasy romance novel: Guardians of the Gate by ami blackwelder. It reached the scribd hotlist and has had over 250 downloads and over 1,500 views in its first month!
Enter a World of Elfin Romance! Download it at www.ireadiwrite.com, www.bookandboard.com, www.amazonkindle.com, www.mobipocket.com VIEW it for FREE at: www.scribd.com, www.authonomy.com, www.urbis.com, and www.lulu.com ORDER PRINTS at: www.lulu.com THANKS!! |
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[no subject]16 Years AgoHi writers! I've been doing more memoir, blogging, and reviews than creative writing this past year. However, my muse has returned and my fingers are burning, my brain is brimming, and the pages are filling up easily with short stories and poetry. I'd love to be published but really had no idea how to go about it until I started reading Poets & Writers Magazine, SheWrites.com, and this group has been enormously informative.
I would love to have my writing read and welcome any feedback.
Here is my blog: www.giltfree.blogspot.com and here is my www.examiner.com page: and I will add my writing to the group page for review.
Thanks so much :)
Rachel |
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[no subject]16 Years Agopublished years ago...but nothing as of late...I'm new thanks for the add
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[no subject]16 Years AgoI've never published before
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Re: New Members, let us know if you have been published or not. If so what type of publishing did you choose? How long did it take? etc.16 Years AgoHi Clint
Thanks for the invite. I self-published 1 poetry book 5 yrs. ago and am working on a collection of short stories in POD with LSI. Designing the cover right now, looking for an illustrator. I should post a few here, maybe. There's one up at my website:
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