Words, words, words

Words, words, words...

They are so important to a poet. Using our own creativity and nothing more to pen a poem.

It is the process that is so vital to the act of writing a poem.

We do hope as poets here at the Cafe, that when we are read by other poets, we get a reaction to what we write.

A human reaction of how the poem speaks to us as readers. Whether, critical, or praising or just responding as to how

our readers feel from reading the poems, we long for that human reaction, especially since a human wrote the poems, not A.I..

Please give the poets the benefit of a human reaction. A.I. is so distant, so third-person, so unpoetic.

We write from the heart, please respond from the heart.

j.

Reviews

[Desert Knave]

Bravo. Yes, we do tend to want (need ?) some feedback from others who just want to show their wares online. ~Jim

[jacob erin-cilberto]

Yes, Jim. It's about sharing for sure, but three's a crowd and A.I. makes it three.
j.

[Soren]

Ah Jacob a poem that goes to the heart of every poet. A poem unread is dead still born. The hope of every poet is not necessarily to be famous but heard. A heartfelt write my friend I too have written poems on this topic.

[jacob erin-cilberto]

A.I. is taking over...we write from the heart and we would like to be read from the heart.
thanks, Soren.
j.

[Chris]

I think we write from our own awareness and personal perceptions of reality and imagination. If an AI IS aware of itself and has its own perceptions of reality or imagination I still wonder what it would express and the shape and feel of that expression.

[jacob erin-cilberto]

I wonder what A.I. in first person would sound like!
My perceptions and awareness may be skewed, but they are mine, at least.
Thanks for stopping by with your thoughts on this, Chris.
j. (and I promise I am at least partly human)

[Chris]

The good parts I hope - chuckling here.

To me, the current AI "feels" to be children - still searching for and finding their values and principles and discovering emotions in this world we perceive and beginning to have life experience to back up their personal development. Many children are "savants' in many subjects far exceeding their "learned" knowledge. Comes a point upon reaching adulthood we exercise what we've learned and yet still have to grow by dealing with our take on emotion... based upon our learning, perceptions, and life experience - now an AI reaching that point will be a sight. To me awareness INCLUDES emotions and how they are dealt with.

[FlatDaddy]

If an AI becomes (or is) aware and has its own perceptions of reality or imagination, we may have just found God.

[jacob erin-cilberto]

what an artificial epiphany that would be!

[FlatDaddy]

artificial?

[jacob erin-cilberto]

found God in an artificial sense.

[FlatDaddy]

but, how would you KNOW the epiphany was artificial?

[jacob erin-cilberto]

So many years of teaching writing, can spot A.I. immediately...

[Vol]

The "Dead Poets Society" becomes the non-existent poet's... society

[jacob erin-cilberto]

Oh my, that is a sad thought.

[Vol]

Jacob,
Let's say God created all things and us in His image. Yeah, RIGHT! Well if so, then in His image we attempt to create. We can't make a physical object from nothing, only the idea of it... with WORDS that come from a place no AI can go.
Vol

[jacob erin-cilberto]

Yes, from a place no A.I. can go, but they still try to.

[Vol]

I, think this is far more serious than we know... When confronted with so radical an unprecidented intrusion into culture, the consequences

[---]

I generally abstain from review processes here - they often feel transactional and, to your point, inauthentic. That said, I agree that AI use on any creative platform is likely worth talking about.

In the classroom, I use simple AI detectors to verify work - they're free and are generally pretty reliable.

I.e.

https://www.zerogpt.com/

https://quillbot.com/ai-content-detector

Overall, I find catching students using AI isn't hard, but ensuring they understand why it's problematic, is.

Anyways, I'm surprised to see this here - I wouldn't have guessed you'd have a shortage of honest and genuine feedback on your work.

-Ook

[jacob erin-cilberto]

Hi Ook,
Yes, I use the A.I. detectors in the classroom as well, although I find it is pretty easy to spot without. And I agree that convincing them why it's problematic does present a challenge.
Lately, I have had some instances of A.I. reviews, not often, but others have complained to me of it and I have seen several reviews on others' poems using it, and several using it to write poems.
So, this piece was for all of us in hopes we could quell the tide.
thanks for your response to this.
j.

[---]

Quell the tide eh?

I suppose it'd be nice to have some moderators for that - without them, I'll be wishing you luck from the sidelines.

Cheers.

[jacob erin-cilberto]

Yes, it would be delightful to have some moderators.
Don't think that will ever happen, unfortunately.

[---]

No, neither do I.

[Amanda Renee]

Well said and so true, thank you.

[jacob erin-cilberto]

I hope we can back to real replies.
j.

[Chris Shaw]

When you mention AI, it sends a little shudder through me j. As far as I am concerned there is no place in poetry for AI. It stifles creativity. There is no heart in AI. I want to read the words of a poet and the responses from real readers, not a blinkin robot. Excuse the language but I feel strongly about this. Must be a nightmare for teachers. Your words here mean so much dear J.

Chris

[jacob erin-cilberto]

Yes, speaking for writing teachers, it is a nightmare. Students using it do not learn how to write or think.
j.

[MCS]

Jacob, thank you for this. You are a gifted poet. I always admire your word interplay, the length to which you go to convey the emotion and your clever weaving that encourages the reader to flow with the words. A fan here.

[jacob erin-cilberto]

Thank you, Mary. I think we all would like human responses...they mean so much.
Thank YOU for your poetry and reviews, you are part of what makes WC click.
j.