Setting The Historical Record Straight: Was Jesus (Yahshua) The Jewish Messiah (Christ)?

Historical truth never tastes good to those who wish to remain entertained by mythological fables and fairytales ....

Setting The Historical Record Straight:  

Was Jesus (Yahshua) The Jewish Messiah (Christ)?

In Fact:  Was Jesus A Messiah (Christ) At all?

Answer: None Of The Above

To cut to the proverbial chase, let us establish just exactly what/who a Messiah and/or a Christ is (or is/was not), as per the original meanings of the Hebrew and Greek languages of ancient-days  history dated as some (more or less) 2000 years ago.  In our attempt to do so, we must ask ourselves a serious and most pertinent question:  Do such word-terminologies -- Messiah, Christ -- accurately (in reference to recorded historical perspectives) possess the same intended meanings (connotations), as per that which is commonly accepted within those Christian minds of our modern day world?

Now the standardized line of bullshit which Christian Preachers and Ministers are taught to present to any and all who would dare ask such intelligently reasonable questions is this, as per the cited excerpt below:

“Christ is actually a transliteration of the Greek term which means an anointed person (christos G5547). Messiah (G3323) is a transliteration of the Hebrew word, Maw-shee'-akh (H4899), that means an anointed person. So Christ is from Greek, and Messiah is from Hebrew. They are the same thing. In English, the transliteration of the Greek word, christos, is christ and the translation is an anointed person or anointed king ...Christ is actually a transliteration of the Greek term which means an anointed person (christos G5547). Messiah (G3323) is a transliteration of the Hebrew word, Maw-shee'-akh (H4899), that means an anointed person. So Christ is from Greek, and Messiah is from Hebrew. They are the same thing. In English, the transliteration of the Greek word, christos, is christ and the translation is an anointed person or anointed king … https://breakthroughversion.com/rayonthebible/christ.html

Having read the cited excerpt above, all we have read and gleaned does sound pretty peachy-keen. Thus most folks are easily satisfied with the first line of gaffing off such questions of the average Jane/Joe pew warmer. BUT!

But -- always remember-- (A butt is an a*s always connected to an a*****e) -- are the word/terminologies, Messiah and Christ, actually as directly connected to one another as they have been presented to seem? On the surface? Yes. Honest  Answer?  Hell da-f**k no! Let’s have a look see anyways:

“The term Messiah (Heb. Mashiach) means ‘anointed one.’ It was customary for Jewish people to consecrate their priests and kings by pouring anointing oil over them (cf. Aaron, Ex. 30:30; Saul, 1 Sam. 10:2; David, 1 Sam. 16:13). Figuratively, the oil was symbolic of being set apart by and endowed with the power of God for special service.

During the prophetic period of Israel’s history, the Jewish people were promised that God would raise up a redeemer from the seed of David who would bring physical deliverance from their Gentile enemies, restore the Temple, and reestablish the kingdom rule of David ...” (cf. Isa. 9:6-7;.11:1-2, Jer. 23:5).  https://israelmyglory.org/article/understanding-jewish-tradition-the-jewish-view-of-the-messiah/ 

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Are you ready for a heeping-helping’splateful of distasteful truth’s reality? Help yourself to a lovin’ spoonful, just below:

Who is the Messiah?

A Historical exploration of

the Jewish concept of a/the Messiah

“ … Mishneh Torah, Kings and Wars 11:4

Now, if a king should arise from the House of David who is versed in Torah and engages in Commandments, as did David his forefather, in accordance with both the Written and the Oral Torahs, and he enjoins all of Israel to follow in its ways and encourages them to repair its breaches, and he fights the Wars of G-d128I.e. he defends Israel., then he may be presumed to be the Messiah. If he succeeds in his efforts and defeats the enemies around and builds the Sanctuary in its proper place and gathers the dispersed of Israel, he is definitely the Messiah …”  https://www.sefaria.org/sheets/365951?lang=bi 

A MOST SIMPLISTIC,  NO DAMN BULLSHIT, ANSWER? Jesus/Yahshua was definitively (and undeniably) NOT the Jewish Messiah, nor any Organized Religion’s claims as a Christ, Allah, God, or Messiah!

Jesus DID NOT accomplish the restoration of the Kingdom nation of Israel.  The nation of Israel was, IN FACT, literally obliterated and destroyed by the Roman Empire following the execution and death of said Jesus.

Jesus dis not establish the sanctuary in its proper place.  His execution and death brought about the very destruction of the second Temple by the very Roman forces which put him to death.

Historical Fact:  Jesus of Nazareth was never Jesus The Messiah, and thus was never Jesus The Christ!

Easily assessed conclusion? Christianity is a farce! Christians have been lied to by their chosen Religion of lying a*s Preachers and Ministers.

But never lied to by this EX-Preacher and Minister: Marvin Thomas Cox-Flynn de Graham

Reviews

[Thomas W Case]

Hi Marvin,

I read your essay on the Messiah/Christ question, and I have to be honest—it doesn’t hold up historically. Coming from a Hebrew roots Messianic perspective, I find several of your claims off the mark.

Timing and the Temple: You argue that Yeshua wasn’t the Messiah because he didn’t restore the Temple, pointing to its destruction. Historically, the Second Temple was destroyed in 70 CE, about 40 years after Yeshua’s death. The Romans under Titus were responsible, not Yeshua. Using the Temple’s destruction as proof against him is a serious misunderstanding of the historical record.

Messiah expectations: Jewish thought during the Second Temple period wasn’t monolithic. Some expected a political king, some a priestly figure, others a spiritual redeemer. Claiming one rigid definition of Messiah for all Jewish expectation oversimplifies centuries of history and prophecy.

Historical sources: Scholars—Jewish, secular, and Messianic alike—agree Yeshua was a historical figure whose life and death had major social and religious impact. Treating later interpretations as evidence of historical fact misrepresents the complexity of the time.

I’m not writing to debate theology. I’m pointing out historical facts, which are clear when the sources are read carefully. I think a more nuanced reading of Jewish and Roman accounts shows your conclusions don’t align with reality.

—Thomas

[Marvin Thomas Cox-Flynn de Graham]

Thomas,

Thank you for reading and for honestly sharing your thoughts on this controversial piece.

You see, I possess a different perspective as a Jewish person, and an EX-Southern (Seminary taught and schooled) Baptist Preacher who long ago departed from the path of fools schooled iin lies and debauchery -- lies that they teach you as a preacher to step carefully around and avoid discussing altogether, whenever and wherever possible.

I am, and do stand as, an adversary of all Organized Religion, simply because -- as George Carlin so eloquently stated -- "Religion is Bullshit!"

As for historical facts, my friend, I do NOT see any historical facts which you have provided in order to launch your personal attack upon this piece of writing, and upon my person.

F**k God! F**k Jesus! And F**k Allah, too!

By the way, I enjoy your writing ...

[Thomas W Case]

I'm sorry that you think I'm attacking you or your writing...I am definitely not...I wouldn't do that....I don't care for organized religion either. I enjoy your writing as well.

[Marvin Thomas Cox-Flynn de Graham]

We are good, Thomas ... By the way, are you aware what your first name actually is (was until around 1500 AD, and means? Thomas is an ancient Hebrew word, which means "Twin." Just so happens that Didymus is/was the ancient Greek word for "Twin." Thus, within the elusive riddle-like Gospel verse which speaks of Thomas who is called Didymus, said verse is actually stating, hinting, alluding, and clearly stating that there were two men who were, in fact, identical twins: Jesus (Yahshua) and Judas -- whom the God-Spells (literal meaning of the word Gospel) recreate and transform into Judas Iscariot. Iscariot is not a name, either, first nor last, but is a Hebrew word that simply means Zealot, Zealous, Fervent, Dedicated, etc. ...

You might truly enjoy the work of Dr. Robert Eisenman, renowned Archeologist and Professor emeritus of Middle Eastern Religions, titled James, The Brother of Jesus, and The New Testament Code, both of which are in depth (1,000 pages each) and detailed historical accounts of the actual life of said Jesus, without all the magical hocus-pocus which George Carlin so well stated is nothing more than Bullsbit ... Actually, very exiting and wonderfully interesting books which I own and treasure as part of my personal library ...

If I came off wrong, please do forgive me. My mood has not been very good as the day of my late wife's death has been approaching. Today is the day she died in 2022 ...

Marve

[Thomas W Case]

I understand. Yes, I remember finding out that Thomas was Didymus in Greek and meant twin.

[John the Baptist]

Very interesting thesis, Marvin. My understanding is that no one knows who wrote the gospels or what their intentions were. What we do know is that later powers used those writings for political purposes and fought bloody wars of conquest over them.

[Marvin Thomas Cox-Flynn de Graham]

Thank you, John, for your insightful observations of historical truth.

It is currently said by experts -- such as Dr. Robert Eisenman and Bart Erhman -- that the Gospels, in fact may have not been written until several hundred years after the arrest, trial, and execution of that Jewish man Yahshua whom the Church has chosen to Greek-Culturize in calling him Jesus, and visualizing him wearing Greek attire -- Jesus nothing less than Gentilized as though he were never a TORAH obedient Jew ... God figure how such a TORAH-less Jesus could have ever been that so called perfect sacrifice for sin, especially in view of the reality that Christianity's God does no accept human sacrifices. And so begs the question: Was Jesus human at all, or only a manifestation of God? Or better yet: Only the overactive imaginations of men as Man? You might enjoy my article, Behold Jesus: God's Sun Sacrifice For Human Sin ...