thou shall not kill

You can emotionally kill, physically kill, conveniently kill like abortion all are extremely sad situations draining our wealth

We could have more wealth

Would have more talents prevail

Could have more fun and laughter

We did not give them chance or killed

Author's Note

right or wrong

Reviews

[Aethereal]

And yet every cell in our body contains an evolved suicide gene that kills us within a hundred years. Without this suicide gene the human race would never have evolved because old prototypes needed to die -off in order for newer improved prototypes to prosper. The following generation must kill the former generation if the species is to survive. This wasn’t my idea, it just happens that way, and I’m and observer. Whose idea was it?

[Linda alexander]

Well said theory ofadaptation, survival of the fittest and so many can support for the emergence of the new genes, absolutely fine, so keep going with that theory, you did not do it, I did not either, but this is based on genetics which makes billions of dollars where richer people dwell, I am trying to stay with the commoners average or below average but hierarchy if valued to the core, these principles will be cherished only on those people not the sophisticated civilized pretending groups, really loved your review, excellent point, true to the core and solid, impressed

[Aethereal]

Your welcome! But no matter what anyone says, this gene exist because we have isolated it, and proved its function. Like it or not, slow debilitating murder is in our genes, automatic destruction.

[Bright Ocean Star]

This life on this planet is supposed to be temporary. We are supposed to serve others and sacrifice with the ultimate goal to earn our place in Heaven. That's the purpose of the gene. It isn't a suicide gene, it is simply a gene that has a time limit and our body's cells begin to wear out. We don't mitotically divide and grow as well as we once did. If we lived forever, what could compel us to even try and earn our place in heaven?

[Bright Ocean Star]

Linda, you opened a can of worms with this one, my friend. Such a simple concept. We are not supposed to take another's life. Why does it have to get muddled up with all else? Thank you, my friend for this reminder. Speaking of this, I just read a similar poem by a new writer who just joined our ranks. You might be interested to read it. It's called "Stand Up!!!!" by OwlGirl. She's only 12, but she write well beyond her young years...

[Sami Khalil]

Right or wrong. A typo................

[Sami Khalil]

Wow. This was powerful and so relevant to our modern times. Thou shall not murder...Thank you for sharing...:)..................

[Linda alexander]

Mississippe thank you so much for the review, so glsd you agreed with me, take care my friend

[Sami Khalil]

You are welcome...Take care...:)...............

[Sami Khalil]

Linda: Let me break the fallacy of the argument and speak for life.
There are no such things as suicide genes for as a nurse yourself they are just genes and that they are not made to last forever. They just break down and not renew themselves. Period. No one is attacking them per say or killing them or even killing themselves.( check definition of suicide).
Ex: Your car or stove are designed for a certain time and they just break down eventually but that does not mean they committed suicide. No regeneration and that is all. Big difference.
Another fallcy is the one generation has to kill the other one. Even in nature you don't see mothers killing their babies or the young ones killing the older ones. It is just does not happen. They replace but not kill. Big difference.
Murder is a choice and even suicide. When you say we have those genes there is no choice here. Big difference too. Killing myself and killing others is totally different too.
Species do not have to kill to survive unless there is a shortage of resources or for power and greed.. (wrong morally). More resources in our days than ever in history. Ex: In 1945 there was quarter billion people for instance in the world. Now we have 7 billion or more. So the natural thing is still happening since Adam and Eve until we get to the next stage which is the afterlife. This world is transitory so it has to have transitory things or humans.
Morally and any other form of belief killing is wrong period except in extreme self defense and elevating genocides on others and so forth. A noble, legal and moral cause so to speak. It is set down in every belief system.
Just my thoughts on this subject to share other views on supporting life. There is a sanctity for life and even for death so to speak for so many faiths and beliefs.
I do not blame God for the idea for we are not an idea only but a breathing humans with spirits within us.(God's breath).
We are there for eternity so to speak but this reality on earth is just transitory. We will have bodies after the resurrection of all that will live forever.
I hope I did not offend you or others...Take care...:).......................

[Aethereal]

Sami: There are cancer cells that live forever because this gene has been disabled. Every cell in our body is replaced every seven years. Each time this happens the cells are weakened by the shortening of a telomere until death results. It’s a suicide gene. Someday Science may be able to reverse this process ( add to the length of the telomere) and then we’ll live as long as we want to. Newer generations destroy former generations automatically by way of our genetic programming, not by choice.

[Sami Khalil]

It is all programmed by God for this transitory world which death is a must. It is not suicide for suicide requires choice or killing requires choice. It is programmed by someone and you acknowledge that. You can shorten or lengthen it but death is a must to all. The longest living man on record lived Methusala 969 years or so but he died. So call them the programmed genes and not suicide. I was reading you review as you are accepting the morality or calling for the acceptance of suicide and killing. That is the poem about. Take care.

[Sami Khalil]

By the way those cancer cells you are talking about they need a body to replicate and if this body has timers and not eternal they can't mutiply forever. For they need the host body. In theory it sounds good but with out the host it will not live. Dependent on others.

[Aethereal]

The natural Process of Evolution placed these genes into our cells to make our survival as a species possible at the expense of the individual. Science is full of controversy, for that’s what Science is all about. You'll find as many Scientist on one side as the other of an issue. I'm for enabling us all to live as long as possible. We still don't know where all the useful energy in our universe came from. Once it’s all used up we have no idea at this time how it will return to form another universe. There will always be mysteries. I do wish that the Totality of Reality that I’m not aware of ( the mystery ) is on my side because I have a survival instinct. I prefer the term Totality of the Unknown to the term God. God only refers to a nurturing aspect of the Unknown that we wish for, but of which we have no idea. Wishful thinking about the Unknown reduces stress. Take care!

[Sami Khalil]

Thank you for the exchange in a good spirit. We still have differences but all in good faith. Take care.

[Aethereal]

Sami: Immortal human cells have are being kept alive in test tubes where they are being fed nutrients. No body needed. This is all apart of aging research. All we need to do is add on to the length of the telomere in each cells to increase our life span. Research is ongoing. The wealthy will take advantage of this first cause they can’t take their money with them. We must be careful that we don’t turn them into zombies! A virus will most likely be used to do this.

[Sami Khalil]

No body needed but somebody is doing it. An immortal has to be there to feed them. I have to run now.
I'm a creationist by the way and not an evolutionist. I only see evolution within the species. You, your amazing scientists can do all of that but death is a must to all. All your doing is prolonging or shortening the process. By the way someone created the process or started the process so it is only God and not evolution which is a process. We go back to the source of all whether now or later even Zombies too...lol

[Aethereal]

And the Source was created by? Something as complex as the Source must have been created, right? We have a paradox here. All I can wish for is that the Unknown is on my side whatever that is. The Source is the Source of the Source is all we may come up with and this is a circular argument. Why don’t we just say that of the Multi-verse instead? We just have our limits. Take care!

[Sami Khalil]

Nope. No beginning and no end to Him. The creator is not created . If someone creates something it does not mean he or she are created. You are thinking human terms and not Divine terms. Big difference. The Eternal, Living , all powerful , all present, all knowledgeable is not created. The source is the one and only source. He ssts creation and processess in place along with laws to govern all...:).........

[Aethereal]

Why don’t we just make a guess that there's no beginning and no end of our automatic multi-universe moving in perpetual motion from expansion to contraction and back again forever as well as other things that it does that are still unknown? Eternal Recurrence! One guess is as good as any other, but I’d rather not make guesses about the unknown. I stay within my limits as I watch and wait for the axe to fall if it ever does. Chop---chop!

[Sami Khalil]

Faith or faiths are not guesses dear one for they are based on truth of the known and the unknown. God has revealed to us some of His knowledge but He put everything in us and in the universe for us to discover. The ax of faith is as important as the ax of science. You still have to chop the tree to see what lies within. We all have limits but God is the absolute and He has revealed some of His absolutes. The unknown is the spirit world and you have to connect your spirit to that world to fill up on some knowledge(gas to use as a joke)...Take care...
By the way premier scientists like Albert Einstein were humble enough to say great things about God. Not being arrogant like your scientists who knows it all. That is more reason for you to submit your will to His will in essence. Take care...:)............

[Aethereal]

For Albert Einstein, God was the Equation for Everything that he was trying to find before he died, but he failed to do so. I’m just a naive person who doesn’t have the egotistical audacity to think that he is otherwise. I’m aware of no absolutes. Mystery is a good thing, much better than the prison of certainty that leaves no room for freedom. We're all blind!

[Sami Khalil]

You are blind because you chose to be. Even if Albert Einstein tried and failed and would not call it failing ( you siad that ) I say it is a success. Like I said all we can do is try but you are not even doing that. You are an observer like you said. Observers can cheer on or condemn only. You have to be a thinker and doer smart one. I base mine on God's and not my ego. I can care less...:)..........

[Aethereal]

I'm not going to use my imagination to construct something that I call an absolute. Since I'm not aware of any absolutes then all I can do is make believe that one of my imaginary constructs is one, but that's all ego. I'm only fooling myself if I do that. What ever all those things of which I'm unaware are, I just hope that they don't mean me any harm. I walk blindly through a maze wishing not to encounter the big bad Minotaur along the way. Walking this maze all that I have the ability to do that I‘m aware of.

[Sami Khalil]

The ego( I call it light or darkness) can work both ways dear. One for the truth then and one against the truth. You have just asserted that we are all blind. That is a statement of absolutes. You could be blind but I see and millions of faithful people in many religions they see with their spiritual eyes. The light is there to see and grasp. Trust me for I seek Him every day and His light with all my faults and powers. He gives it and He takes it away. Take care...:).......

[Aethereal]

Sorry, but I really am not aware of any absolutes. There may be absolutes, but I'm not aware of any. I can't do anything with that which I'm not aware of, and I'm not going to make anything up.
I'm not an all knowing being. I'm just a chipmunk! My universe is my oak tree, and my stars are acorns. I'm aware of nothing beyond my oak tree. For all I know, my oak tree could be an illusion being that I'm in a matrix tied to a computer. Nothing is for certain!

[Sami Khalil]

We do have certainty in God and the lifeafter. Like I said this is transitory world. We have hope for we know there is certainty somewhere, sometime. Otherwise you are a ship wondering in a vast ocean among the storms without land or an island to land on. You have certainty as a chipmunk in an oak tree as you say. By the way illusions have conclusions at some point. Love is not an illusion and so many other things that binds us togetherlike thoughts and energies and computers...lol

[Aethereal]

In a computer matrix, illusion seems as reality, but it's not reality, but there's no way to tell the difference. A chipmunk in a matrix would think she's in her oak tree, but this would not be true. Nothing is for certain. Socrates said that we know nothing, and he proved it time and time again through his method of dialogue. What I'm doing is as old as the hills. The ancient Athenian priest of Zeus contemned him to death to get him out of the way because he threatened their religion, and their religion held the Athenian state together.

[Sami Khalil]

Socrates and others are not prophets of God for they are philosophers. They can be proven wrong too. Don' tstone me for saying this. Like I said the only absolute and certainty is God and His promises. All you are doing chipmunk is fishing in a small lake of uncertainty hoping to catch few fishes here and there when you can have the Source of it all. No more searching in vain and agonizing like those philosophers did. Listen to God's prophets and the Truth they have shared in most religions about God and His certainties. You are certain you don't know reality and that is your certainty. Clear the clouds of doubt and you will see certainty in your heart with your spiritual eyes...Take care...:).........

[Aethereal]

"Prophets of the Totality of Reality" tells me nothing at all of what they are prophets of. I'm still not aware of what the "Totality of Reality" is. That just makes them prophets of nothing that I'm aware of. This provides no information to me at all. They would need to make me aware of what they are a prophet of to make any sense of what they are about, and they can't do that. They may as well say that they are prophets of blank--blank--blank. I have no idea!

[Sami Khalil]

They made you and us aware( in your reality and ours) of God, His purpose for creating all, good and evil within and without, Heaven and Hell with different levels, the power within each of us, the love and compassion for humanity, the laws of God and His limits and so forth. The list goes on. But some heed and some don't. Your choice. They have spoon fed us through the ages. But you rather believe few philosophers which is ok if they are telling the truth and not them. Take care. By the way Budda had his awakening in the awareness of the reality of suffering in the world. Take care...

[Aethereal]

I’m not talking philosophy. I’m just talking about what I personally am aware of, and I’m not aware of the Totality of Reality. I’m just not aware of what its referent is. For one thing, I’m not aware of everything that is going on in the Milky Way galaxy let alone everything else. I’m not aware of the content of all of the books on Earth. I have no idea what these prophets are referring to. I can’t fit the total content of Reality into my tiny chipmunk brain even if I had it to push in there. I’m just telling you of my limited capacity to encompass Reality. These prophets will need to go to someone with a larger brain if they want to make any sense at all, perhaps a brain as large as the universe itself. This must be the size of your brain?

[Sami Khalil]

Hahaha. Ok. Take care...:).................

[Aethereal]

Take care Oh, great brain who has the capacity to encompass all of Reality.

[Sami Khalil]

All things are possible with God. Remember when you log on the source you will have all the blessings you will receive but you have to be willing and able to receive even with small or large mind. Take care...:)........

[Aethereal]

All things are contained within the Totality of Reality. I already knew this, but I'm not aware of what all these things are. Existence is the source of itself, or has always been. Why do we need the word source at all. "Always been" makes more sense. Existence makes existence possible? Now I'm talking in circles. I just have no idea. If there was no source, but rather nothing at all would it matter? There would be no one for it to matter to, and that would be real paradise. What we need is nothing. Something is pain, but there’s no escape from something. I still have no idea! Prophet of ?

[Sami Khalil]

God is love and how can you explain existence without love or His justice. In our dual world there must be both options for us. We are probably using different semantics. Always been and always will be is the answer God gave Moses when he asked him His name. He told him:" Tell them I'm that will be sent you"( by the way it is a mistranslated from the Hebrew. It matters for everything has to have a head so to speak. A just ruler( not a dictator). Someone has to answer to someone else or it will be chaos in the world. You are talking about ego then you will see huge egos when no one is answerable to a higher power let alone injustice will be rampant. I can sense your spirit. I'm not telling you here to join any religion. I'm more spiritualist myself. Just the basic truths and forget all the other mess in the world. Take care...:)......

[Aethereal]

Why are you trying to turn the simple human emotion of love into a juggernaut?
By saying that the human emotion of love is All-of-Reality all you ‘re saying is that love is love, and this circular reasoning signifies nothing more than I was already aware of in the first place. Yes, I’m aware of the human emotion of love, and it seems to be one of the evolved emotional species survival traits that it needs to be for our species to continue to survive at least for the time being. Love is an important survival trait emotion that need not be turned into a juggernaut that smashes everything in its path.

[Chidoriflower]

Love is not an emotion.

[Chidoriflower]

If love was an emotion it would be temporary, and not very trustworthy. I hope you have peace, or will find it, Aethereal. Take care Sami; your words speak volumes. People tend to forget basic truths....

[Aethereal]

Psychologist consider love to be one of the human emotions, but if you want to turn it into a juggernaut that rolls over everything in its path then that’s your prerogative. I'm suspicious of juggernauts because of the damage that they are capable of. Psychologist are suspicious of obsessive emotional behaviors. To be safe, I try to keep everything that I’m aware of within its limits. Moderation in all things leads to tranquility.

[Chidoriflower]

Yeah.....no.....I'm just gonna go.....No point in arguing when I have school to do. Peace out.

[Aethereal]

One of the reasons why I have a tranquil mind is that I take my emotions for what they really are without trying to turn them into something that they are not. I don't burn myself out struggling to fit a square peg into a round hole.

[Aethereal]

"Whisper words of wisdom let it be." Take care!

[Sami Khalil]

Love is an action that impacts the core of emotions and compassion is part of love. In other words you act your love and compassion and all things spring from the Universal love of God and mind which we can all tap into through the spirit. I told you before you have to see with your spiritual eyes which you go back to your earthly eyes. LOVE IS WORSHIP through obedience of the Divine by being reverential and considerate in your Totality of awareness. Take care.

[Aethereal]

Sami:

It goes without saying that all things are contained within the “Totality of Reality” because this is how we define this term. The problem is that none of us is aware of the “Totality of Reality” because we don’t have the capacity to be aware of such an enormity. Perhaps if each of us had as a giant astronomical throbbing brain the size of the universe we could do so. Reality contains itself!
Psychologist have known for years that the emotion of love is centered in the brain because time and time again they confront people with brain injuries who feel no emotion at all after their injury. There are also certain drugs that cause emotional depletion. An emotional disability is a serious psychological disorder that may lead to suicide. Some people have overactive emotions that lead to suicide. Emotions must be taken in moderation.

[Sami Khalil]

We are not Gods to be aware of the Totality of reality so that is common sense and you keep repeating that but we can know from God or His prophets what to expect in this life or the lifeafter and where they answer so many questions about our origins and fate and so forth. Not having the full capacity does not mean w stop searching, asking, knocking and wondering. Like I have said all is contained within and without but we have to find it. By the way all scientists say we use a small fraction of our minds so imagine if we use more and more. We will discover enormous things. There are things hidden like God himself for a reason for you (us)to believe through the evidence of it all that He exists. The Maker, Creator, Artist, Sustainer, Ruler, Judge and so forth. About love I'm talking about spiritual love and not the fuzzy feelings you are talking about which is eternal in essence. Of course we have to use the senses but I believe even if you leave this body spirits have can still see, hear, taste, touch and speak in a way or another. Read about near death experiences and how they are AWARE of everything. Take care...:)..........

[Aethereal]

But that’s just the point, I'm not aware of a referent for the term "God", and if I were I'd also be aware of its synonym the term: "Totality of Reality." Science is what gives us a partial awareness of the nature of everything, and nothing else that I‘m aware of at this time. Science requires a referent for each of its terms in the form of measurements attached to units. I can’t do anything with that which I’m not aware of.

[Sami Khalil]

And my point is that science is not the only source for our knowledge. It provides physical knowledge of all things but not spiritual like revellations of faiths. This world is only a manifestation of His will. Now you have to discern His will in the spirit too...Not saying don't use science but science can change with new discoveries. You know that from history...Take care...:).....

[Aethereal]

Science is supposed to change with new findings. There are no absolutes in Science. Science evolves. If you use markings that have no referents then no one really is aware of what you are talking about. You just can't assume that creating a marking automatically gives birth to a referent for it in the minds of other people. If I make a scribble on a piece of paper, it's just a scribble, it has no referent unless I find one for it that I may show to someone else.

[Sami Khalil]

I believe in miracles and also faith and science. I think they are all important. And all of them are signs and references that there is ONE God and His Will is evident in all. We can't count the miracles that you see and experience every day let alone. I take a wholesome approach to things while you are taking only science. Science is limited like you have said. Hence the need to find more answers that are hidden from THE GOD. Take care...:).............

[Aethereal]

A cave man from 100000 BC would consider television a miracle. Today’s miracles are tomorrow's inventions. A miracles is just something that we haven't explained scientifically yet. No use in jumping the gun by grabbing at straws whereby you draw false conclusions that make no sense at all because marking that have no referents are used. “God” is one of many marking lacking a referent. It’s not really a word. It’s just a marking signifying nothing at all. We really can’t say anything about nothing at all, or use it in any way other than a place holder such as zero is used in our number system. We need not have faith in zero.

[Sami Khalil]

Here we go again with your confused self and fallacy. Inventions and miracles are 2 different things. Miracles come from God where as inventions from man. Big difference. All creation is a miracle whether you consider it or not. You don't make sense at all with your references too. I grab a solid rock which is faith while you grab the air between your ears...lol
By the way Zero can be positive or negative. The base for duality. Take care.
I think we are bothering Linda. I got an email. I will continue with you on another poem someday...Take care...:).....

[Aethereal]

Miracles come from God? The marking "God" has no referent that I'm aware of therefore your sentence makes no sense to me at all. A cave man would say that a TV comes from magic. I have no awareness at all what is meant by "All Creation" for there's no referent for this totality that I‘m aware of. Unless you use scientific terms you make no sense at all, for all those non-scientific terms have no referents. Let's just face the fact that I'm of a scientific frame of mind, and you delve in magic, and scribbling that lacks referents.

[Sami Khalil]

I delve in truth of God and along with the science He created too. You delve in science but lack of wisdom to go along with science.
Another confusion is you called it magic. Miracles and magic are totally different. I hope you get some definitions before you say them. A great scientist or chipmunk like yourself should be accurate at least.
You keep saying you are not aware but you are aware in the now of your position on thigs, your disbelief in things, your ignorance of things physically and spiritually. You are aware of this moment and conversation. You are just denying your awareness. Awareness is not just physical but spiritual. Maybe is the later that you reject and that we know you are not accepting your are a spiritual being with no moral compass to guide you. You make things as you go. Take care...:)....

[Linda alexander]

Wow wow wow, my four lines did not made this thinkers to think this much deep, my poem meant nice to others emotionally, stay away from abortion if you can except certain hard situations, and do not kill people tat is all and none of us are doing it, so please be nice to me, both thinkers, I will write a poem or write in few years of time when I can think too, until then please wait, gracias, smiles

[Aethereal]

Sami: This is my final message on this topic: (Linda: Chipmunks and Moles don't have abortions cuz they love their cute little pups.)

I said that a cave man would call a TV magic. I didn’t say that I would call it magic.

A miracle is an event that seems to defy all of the laws of science, but since we don’t, and probably never will know all of the laws of Science we have no way of knowing if it’s a miracle. We also will never know all of the exceptions to our laws of Science. Miracles have no referents since we have no way of defining them because we’re not aware of everything that there’s to be aware of.

The terms “Spiritual”, “Soul,“ and “God” point to no empirical referent that I’m aware of and therefore they signify nothing to me. If you use any of these terms in a sentence, then that sentence makes no sense to me since I’m not aware of the referent for the term used.


I’m not making anything up. It’s up to the symbol maker to provide me with the referent that his manufactured symbol points to. If I don’t have a referent for it, then his symbol signifies nothing at all. It’s the symbol maker who’s making things up.

Before someone can consider whether or not they should believe in something or not they must first be aware of that something that they are to make a decision about. I can’t take into consideration something that I’m totally unaware of. I can’t believe, disbelieve or doubt something that I’m not aware of. I’m not an Atheist. I’m not a Theist. I’m not an Agnostic. I’m just not being given the referents that the symbol maker want me to act upon..

[Sami Khalil]

May He give you or provide you Your Referents one day to act upon. Take care.

[Aethereal]

Yes, may the Symbol Maker supply the empirical referents for her symbols so that it is possible for someone using those symbols in a sentence to be aware of what her symbols signify. Have a good day!

[Sami Khalil]

Have a good day. I enjoyed the debate. Take care...:)...........